False Prophecy? Israeli Teenager Claims NDE Vision of the End Times and of Obama Being “Gog”

The Internet has been abuzz with the story of a 15-year-old Israeli boy named Natan, who testified having seen a vision of the end times and of US president Barack Hussein Obama being “Gog”, while having a near-death experience (NDE) on 28 September 2015.

Natan with Rabbi Rami Levy

For those who are unfamiliar with Natan’s testimony, an outline has been provided by Internet blog Dreaming of Moshiach:

  • The beginning of Gog U’Magog began three days before the Rosh HaShana, September 11, 2015 or lunar calendar 27 Elul 5775.
  • One of these days, there will be a security breach that will cause riots to erupt leading to severe civil unrest. This will burst into a war and will be all over the news internationally. Everyone will know and understand it.
  • Israel will not yet be involved.
  • This will cause the world to unite against Israel and come fight us.
  • The war will begin by Gog … Obama is Gog and he will fight us.
  • After the first 2 days of war in Israel, Israel Defense Force (Tzahal) will be abolished and the nations of the world will enter Israel.
  • People will be killed as well as kidnapped. It will be total chaos.
  • An atom bomb will be aimed at Israel and HKB’H will freeze it in midair. After a few weeks, it will land in Tel Aviv and Haifa.
  • They will capture Israel and enter Jerusalem.
  • The entire war will take 2 weeks and millions will perish.
  • To be saved we need to do Teshuva and learn Torah. Only true servants of HaShem will remain alive.
  • The Moshiach (Messiah) is among us (living in Israel) and many know him, but did not know he is the Moshiach. When he will be discovered everyone will be surprised. He’s a popular Baal Teshuva that does kiruv work.
  • After the war, building of the Temple will be built followed by resurrection
  • We will be able to see the patriarchs, Moshe Rabenu (Moses), and all the saints only from a distance because of their divine
  • Graves will open and the resurrected will come out of their grave wearing beautiful clothes.
  • Mount of Olives will split into two and all who remained alive will see Moshiach.
  • It’s a matter of months till the final redemption.

In addition, according to Dreaming of Moshiach, Natan allegedly claimed that:

  • Moshiach will stand in the entrance of the Mount of Olives and thru smell, will decide who will enter the Mount of Olives.
  • Moshiach will fight Obama and will bury him in Eretz (the land of) Israel.
  • HKB’H will be revealed dressed in a white robe with blood stains from the blood of the Jews who were prosecuted because of their religion.

Natan’s testimony has been received with mixed reactions – either amazement intermingled with fear, or incredulity and denial.

Susan Constantine, a world renowned body language expert specializing in deception detection, vouched for the credibility of Natan’s testimony. “I have reviewed the entire video and it is my professional opinion the boy Natan truthfully believes he experienced a visitation in heaven and was not being deceptive,” said Constantine, in a signed statement obtained by Breaking Israel News. Constantine was hired by an Orthodox Jewish non-profit organization in Israel to assess the video.

Natan’s background makes his testimony convincing. According to Dreaming of Moshiach, “Nathan is a regular Israeli 15 year old teenager from a secular background and never learnt in Yeshiva (a religious school). He was clueless about the most simple Jewish things such as Tzizit (knotted ritual fringes)… After his near death experience, he went to a Rav and told him his frightening experience and asked him for a Kipa (skull cap) and Tzizit”.

There seems to be little doubt over Natan’s sincerity and truthfulness over what he has shared about his experience.

However, the source of Natan’s NDE vision must be carefully weighted – was it from God, or from an ungodly source?

From the perspective of a Christian, one area of concern is that in Natan’s NDE vision, the Lord Jesus Christ is not explicitly revealed as the Moshiach (Messiah), and it begs the question of “Why not?”

Indeed, according to Natan, the Moshiach (Messiah) is presently “among us”, “living in Israel”, and that “many know him, but did not know he is the Moshiach”. Some commentators have opined that Natan was referring to the Lord Jesus Christ. However, could it also be that Natan was instead referring to a False Messiah – someone who is actually alive in our present day and living in Israel, but who has yet to come under the media spotlight?

Another area of concern is that Natan seems to be alluding to the appearance of the “Moshiach” before the rebuilding of the Temple. In particular, Natan seems to have claimed that during the war, “Moshiach will fight Obama”, and that it is after the war that the rebuilding of the Temple will commence, with the “Moshiach” presumably having a role in its rebuilding.

That said, does the bible not say that it is the “man of lawlessness” who must come first before our Lord Jesus Christ comes, and that he (the “man of lawlessness”) comes to defile the Jewish temple?

Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; NASB; with emphasis added)

On the issue of Obama being Gog, this seems to be highly unlikely. According to Revelation 20, the Gog-Magog war takes place at the end of the Lord Jesus Christs’ future millennial (1000-year) reign on earth. Revelation 20:8 suggests that Gog and Magog are not world leaders or some other personalities; rather, they represent “nations that are at the four corners of the earth”. In addition, Revelation 20:7 suggests that it is Satan who will instigate the Gog-Magog war all by himself, and not the beast, the false prophet or some other individual.

Further concerns that Christian believers might have over Natan’s testimony are expressed in the Youtube video below:

Overall Natan’s testimony is interesting and the teenager’s sincerity is not in doubt. However, one concern is that Natan could be unwittingly leading his audience to a False Messiah, and only time will tell. Hence, Christians should exercise discernment and ask the Lord for wisdom and understanding before deciding whether to embrace his testimony wholeheartedly. Because the original testimony given by Natan was in Hebrew (and not in English), we (Singapore Christian) acknowledge the possibility that there may have been mistranslations in the subtitled video, or that we may have misunderstood some of the details given by Natan (for example, on his chronology of the appearance of the Messiah). If so, we stand corrected and humbly apologise in advance.

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5 thoughts on “False Prophecy? Israeli Teenager Claims NDE Vision of the End Times and of Obama Being “Gog”

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  2. Joseph Wee

    Message to seek GOD

    Fellowship with GOD is not a one way road. It involves both parties. Example,When you say you know Prime Minister but not matter how hard you knock at his gate, He won’t let you in. But unless Prime Minister know you and have been with you before for some time then will he recognise you, acknowledge you and open his gate and invite you into His house.

    One way fellowship never works. Self assumption that you can enter heaven is like walking the wrong path from the start.

    Communication with GOD goes two ways: 1) talking to Him. 2) listening to Him when He talks to us. We have to put GOD first and learn when to pause and surrender our desires and self will to Him before praying in order to hear His voice. Be still and know I am GOD. (Psalm 46:10)

    Hearing the voice of GOD is Spirit to spirit communication. You must have the hunger, the strongest desire for GOD more than anything you desire in life at all moment of your life. you must have the desire to intimately know him and have great reverence for Him,for He is the Almighty! The Creator of us all.

    If we acknowledge that He is the Almighty One. The more we have to bow before him. Abram fell face down, and GOD said to him…. (Genesis 17:3)
    Many churches do not emphasis the Reverence for GOD.
    Many do not bow down to Him, some even mistreat Him as a santa claus praying to Him only for selfish desire. If we say we know Him, we would have pray according to His Will. We would have study and obey His laws. We would have study the bible and do only the things that pleases Him. We would have live in a way that exalt His name.

    The quality of the time we spend fellowshiping with the Holy Spirit has everything to do with all the above! For the Spirit is our personal tutor!

    A fool spurns a parent’s discipline, but whoever heeds correction shows prudence.(Proverbs 15:5)

    Many times when we sin, we ignore the Spirit’s call to repent. We take our inner voice,our carnal nature, more important than the discipline of the Spirit.

    Many Christians slowly drift away from GOD in this manner. This grieves the Holy Spirit! No matter how hard the Spirit pray to intercede for us, many Christians are still very stubborn. Some even think they are in line with the Spirit ,giving excuses and keeping their old sinful way of living. Many pastors even teaches “Grace” to replace the repentance of sin.

    They joke and talk about the world on the pulpit, seeking fame and status.
    As stated in Isaiah 29:13
    The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.

    John 10:27 says:”My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.”

    Revelation 3:20 says:” Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.”

    Christ is calling you now. If you love Him, Love His words Obey His commandments and Return to Him now!

    Repent! For the kingdom of heaven is at hand. (Matthew 4:17)

    If you love your brothers and sisters in Christ,please pass this message to as many as you can.”Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.”Acts 2:40 (Urgent!)

    From: A humble servant of GOD.

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  3. Rhys Jones

    Gods desire to be known to us may be greater than our desire could ever be to know him, Natan talked of his one to one relationship with God in his visit to heaven.

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  4. Simon Wadsworth

    I dont believe Natans testimony from the onset, because he states that one is saved by good works or meritous acts. He also never mentions salvation by grace, or that it was YESHUA HAMOSHIAC who does the saving. He merely says Moshiac told him these things. The Jewish faith of the old covenant will not justify an individual, be they Jew or Goyem, for salvation in heaven, because the 2nd chapter of Ephesians states that salvation is not of the worksk of the law, but by grace alone. Wearing of Kippurs or wearing of Shaliffs or reciting tehilim prayers in a repitititive fashion,, will not avail any individual of salvation. He could have had a spiritualy, deceiving experience, rather than the genuine one, as not all experiences come from Elohim or Yeshua. There is a very real devil in this world who can deceive people of all manner of experiences, take for example the toronto blessing and other phenomena. I believe he had some form of genuine experience, but the question remains, what was the source of these experiences and of the conferring of this sudden supernatural knowledge? Obviously, Natan learned many things during his NDE, but was it the right kind of thing that would lead Natan to know Yeshua himself and gor him and his listeners to obrain true salvation?
    Simon

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